PART 8

YTN-So, you don't think it should have ever been in place?

JR-Oh no..no,no...You hire a guy by his, you know...

YTN-Well, like when you hear about a white kid, with better grades, trying to get into college, but he can't get in because they've already met their quota of white kids. So a black kid that did not make grades as good as him gets in...and yadayadayada...he gets the spot. You don't agree with that sort of thing?

JR-No. No. My youngest son, Brad, was state -------------. Been with 'em 10 years, okay? When he got in there...let me tell you something...you had to go thru a background check that was out of this world...you had to score high on your tests...everything had to be up to snuff...Then they found they didn't have enough black ------------ -----------------, and so about 3, or 4, years later they started dropping the a...you know, dropping their requirements...they get 10 points because they're a...because they're black! Because they're black!

YTN-Yeah. I've heard of that. Even within the Postal Service.

JR-You shouldn't give 'em nothing 'cause they're colored! (Raises voice in apparent disgust.) But...I admire guys like Alan Keyes? You know? But sonofabithes like Jesse Jackson!...Al Sharpton!...they're the guys that keep this crap going! If you wouldn't have guys like that running around...

YTN-Farrakhan.

JR-Hell yeah. Him! Guys like that, running around, stirring up the niggers? It wouldn't be bad...Martin Luther King...he was the daddy of all that stuff..he started all that crap.

YTN-Cause you know...I hear these songs...and it's changed so much. I see the BET (Black Entertainment Television), and the.. you know, the blacks with the gold chains...the cadillacs...and the rap...this, that, and the other...and it just strikes me as funny...(Johnny Rebel begins laughing sardonically in background of tape as description grows.)...the differences between what you sing about, and I can't help but wonder...I wonder what he THINKS about this crap?...When he watches something like this, I mean, how does that stuff strike you?

JR-(Still laughing.) It turns me down. Boy, it turns me off. I just..I..I..(At loss for words.)...it's disgusting!  You watch MTV...and you see some of these niggers with their videos...it's filthy! Like I told you, I had a song with the word 'hell' in it, and they wouldn't play the damn thing on the air because it had 'hell' in it...and look what it's come to. And all in the name of civil rights! Aw, bullshit! (Spoken in a disgusted, dismissive manner.) The same crap goin' on right now in Florida. You know Al Gore? That sonofabitch got 93% of the black vote in Florida! 93% (Raises voice dramatically.) That's exactly the reason I'll never vote for a damn Democrat! Because they're the ones that set these sonofabitches up. They're the ones that passed the civil rights bills...Oh yeah..oh..I get upset when I start thinking about that shit, now.

YTN-Well, considering you made the Filthy McNasty stuff...what's the difference between the rap, and the Filthy McNasty stuff?

JR-This stuff is not played on the air. (And in all fairness, all his Filthy McNasty 45's have 'not for broadcast' stamped on both sides of the label.) They're party records. They've got a targeted audience. Rap is not targeted. It's targeted at everybody...My wife used to drive a school bus, and if she wasn't careful, one of these kids would slip a cassette into the player, and start playing this rap, you know? With all these curse words in it, you know? With a bunch of little kids. That's the difference to me. If they want to say it on their records, that's fine, but market the sonofabitch underneath the counter...

YTN-Because they didn't even have a PMRC (Parents Music Resource Center) back then, so could younger children even get your records?

JR-No.This stuff was all kept in a box in the back, on a back aisle, with all the Rebel stuff in the back...this stuff wasn't on display in the store.

YTN-Does the impact that your music has had over the past 30 years surprise you? Did you have any clue that this was still going on? That there were people all over Europe, and the U.S....I mean, did you know there was this much interest?...That it had generated this much interest?

JR-Didn't have a clue. It about knocked me out when you told me all this.

YTN-Just thought it had been forgotten about after it was recorded?

JR-I didn't realize people were still buying this stuff.

YTN-So you didn't have any clue when you recorded it that 30 years later you'd be sitting around discussing it...have a website...?

JR-No. Just thought it'd be a passing fancy. It was just something we did for fun, you know? Really...since the early 70's, I hadn't really thought too much about these things.



Part 9